Benedict sits down with Dan Barker, co-President of the Freedom from Religion Foundation, which works on keeping the church and state separate in the United States and provides a community for non-believers. They talk about the foundation, the pledge of allegiance, and what it’s like to debate religion in the Bible belt.[soundcloud url=”https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/325977263″ params=”auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true” width=”100%” height=”450″ iframe=”true” /]
John Perkins is the President of the Secular Party of Australia. The party is intended to promote secular humanist ethical principles in Australia as well as advocate for the separation of church and state. In this educational series with Scott Douglas Jacobsen, Perkins discusses secularism in Australia.